INCEPTION (SPOILERS)

[hamlet]

This is the complete discussion thread for all things inception.

I feel Lucy should start off, since you already wrote up something about it and I'd like to hear your impressions first

[LUCY "KITTY" HARRIS]

(M’kay. Review time. Keep in mind that I’m not a professional movie critic. I’m just a humble theater-goer and I don’t pretend otherwise. Also, you must excuse any depth this review lacks. This was originally typed up for Tichy who, incidentally, hasn’t seen it yet so I had to avoid revealing too much about the movie. For those who have seen it, you’ll know exactly what I’m referring to in this review so it shouldn’t really matter.)

Let me get one Cillian fangirl squeal out of the way before I begin. *inhales deeply* SSSSSSSQQQQQQQQQQUUUUUUUUUUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *clears throat* Now that that’s over with, let me just say that if I was infatuated with Cillian before, it’s graduated to full-on love after this movie. I’m going to spend some time talking about him and his character before I get to the actual movie itself. My only complaint regarding his character was the fact that I’d have loved more screen-time. His acting in this movie, once again, is top-notch.

There’s a scene where he sheds some tears, not Watching the Detectives comicry either. Yeah, he cries so beautifully that even my eyes got a bit glassy and I wanted to hop through the screen to console him. He is such a great actor, though, that he actually makes you feel for poor Robert Fischer Jr. He’s the mark and he’s the one they’re trying to perform Inception on, and you simply cannot help but feel a helluva lot of sympathy for the guy. *snuggles Cillian*

As for the movie itself, I thought it was pretty good. Chris has certainly improved on the action sequences, that’s for damn sure. I don’t know if you noticed, but some of the fight sequences in TDK are relatively off. Example: When Batman is trying to capture Lao and he has to fend off his goons. The choreography of the fighting was noticeably off, at least to me. As far as action sequences go, the magnum opus was the zero-gravity fight scene that you get a little preview of in the trailers. Yeah, it was as awesome as it looked in the trailers. The visual aspect of it is marvelous, of course. From cityscapes to beaches to snow-covered mountaintops, it’s beautiful to behold. Not as beautiful as Cillian, but ya’ know.

Now onto performances. I’ve already talked about Cilz, so I’ll go ahead and skip him for this bit. The main issue I had with Leo is the fact that his performance in this movie seemed a bit too familiar. If you’ve seen Shutter Island, then you’ll know what to expect from him in this movie, in more ways than one. Joseph Gordon-Levitt really didn’t add much to the movie, performance-wise, since his character was generally Leo’s wingman. Ken Watanabe, who, incidentally, I had a major crush on in the movie ‘The Last Samurai’, delivered a performance that wasn’t particularly note-worthy. Not bad, but not exactly memorable. Tom Berenger, damn he let himself go! Aside from that, there really isn’t much worth noting about him either. Tom Hardy’s character, Eames, I actually did like. He played The Forger in the movie and as someone who can impersonate others in your dreams, he obviously has to have some finesse and charm. Tom did deliver on that front, so his character does stand out in a good way. One person’s character that stands out in a bad way? Ellen Page’s obnoxious character Ariadne, The Architect. I’m well aware that she needs to be cautious for the sake of herself and the rest of the team, but she just comes off as meddlesome and irritating. Her performance, for lack of a better word, was wooden and I found myself disliking her character. Michael Caine appears rather briefly. Blink your eyes and you miss him type of deal, but in the short time he’s on screen, he manages to engage you. Marion Cotillard manages to anchor the movie with an admittedly good performance and she essentially adds heart to the movie. Didn’t expect any less from her, really. So, overall, the performances were good, if not pretty good.

The plot. The meat and ‘taters of the whole movie. The concept of the movie is mind-boggling, I’ll give Nolan that. It’s a rollercoaster ride for your brain and by the end of it, your brain will likely end up feeling violated and sullied. There were plenty of ‘head-scratching moments’, lemme tell ya’. That just might be on account of me being an idiot, though, and not paying attention closely enough. With this movie, you HAVE to pay attention to every detail. Believe me, they are essential to the growing plot. Miss one seemingly minor, but ultimately major detail, and there will be more holes in the story for you than there already are. The plot itself is incredibly imaginative and specifically designed for more intellectual theater-goers. No teeny-bopper with a female boner for Twilight will go anywhere near this movie. Probably why the theater I saw it in was so empty, but that’s beside the point. I can’t really go into depth about the actual plot itself considering you haven’t seen it, but I will say that most of it is solid the whole way through.

Now that I’ve rambled, it’s time for my rating. Taking into account the impressive action sequences, the eye-catching landscapes, the fairly good performances from the cast, and the captivating and challenging story-line/plot, I’d have to give this movie a reasonable 4 stars out of 5.

I may be nit-picky about a lot of things in this movie, but for the faults that it does have, it makes up for with compelling dialogue and an intuitive plot. Watching it in IMAX was a real treat and I have to say that I did like this movie quite a bit. Apparently so much so that I saw it twice. Inception is a clever sci-fi heist film and psychological thriller and if the question is whether I’d recommend it or not, I’d say hell muthafudgin’ yes. ;D

End long, unnecessary ramble.

'Kay, the discussion can commence.

[hamlet]

Ok so when I came out of the movie theater, I was in automatic SQUEEEEE mode, just like I was when I came out of The Dark Knight. When i came out of the theater, I loved everything about that movie LOL EVERYTHING. So luckily I'm not doing this review at that time, otherwise it would be extremely biased. lol

My sister came out of the movie like "meh". She really didn't like it because she really didn't understand it and was thoroughly confused. And she felt as if she didn't have any emotional connection with any of the characters. I was soooo mad cuz i wanted her to SQUEEEE over it like I did

But after reflection, I think she felt what I felt when I came out from seeing Public Enemies. I mean, you have protagonists who are essentially doing something really bogus, we're thrown into their bogus planning and plotting without *much* back story, and by the time you get to the backstory you're kinda like "okay...so?" And the movie is trying to make you feel sorry for them.

But for some reason I still felt the emotional connection. I think because of the suspense of the movie and how intriguing the concept was...all that kept me engaged. I wasn't trying to learn so much about the characters as I was about this whole concept. The characters were secondary, and by the time the movie's exposition about the concept was over, they were getting into the back story.

That said, I think the movie is very smart and well put together. It reminded me a lot of LOST, in the fact that it is a very intellectual movie with a lot of complicated details that engages the viewers instead of patronizing them. And the entire movie continues even after the movie is over through theoretical discussions from the viewers...which is AWESOME in my book. Movies that make you think and talk and discuss and not just a black and white, ho-hum plot....love it. It merits a second viewing NOT because its confusing (IMO), but that there are so many little things to catch. So much information about this created world to absorb. My sis is so convinced that there are several plot holes in this movie (like the timing of all three dream levels), I just don't see it. I dunno, maybe i just missed them.

Also, a second viewing is merited because its just visually stunning. But you can see that from the trailers. That's my kind of special effects!

As for the performances. First of all I was pleasantly surprised by all of the stars in this movie. The only person I knew about was Leo, so everyone else was just a bonus lol In general I thought everyone's part was well played. Great acting from everyone. There were a lot of "team" members, a lot of people who didn't get to really show off their acting skillz all that much, but I think that's mostly because of the "heist" set up that Nolan wanted to portray. We only had the main protagonist...Leo's character...that we needed to care about. Everyone else was just a chess piece (reference intended) in the heist plot, to form the "team." So I really didn't feel the need to be blown away by anyone else's performance per the construction of the movie...though I felt everyone did a good job overall.

That said, I can't say i was blown away by Leo's performance though (who needed to blow me away) I thought it was good enough though. But eeeeehhh, it was alright. A little more from him would've made me really love the movie. But I still thought he did a good job. Perhaps, like I said earlier, I couldn't be all that sympathetic to his character which is why i didnt 'feel' for him. Maybe it wasn't his acting. I haven't seen Shudder Island (I didn't have any desire to see it and all hopes of me seeing it was killed when I overheard some loud people walking spoil the ending...a very predictable and lame ending from the sounds of it lol). I dunno, I'm drawn to the more charismatic and quirky characters...and Cobb was the LEAST charismatic of them all to me, everyone else *almost* collectively overshadowed him.

Joseph Gordon-Lewitt....SQUEEEEEEEEEE. I was surprised to see him in this movie actually lol And I think he is just ADORABLE, so I was happy to see him along side the very serious Leo. And in the movie, he continued to be very ADORABLE and very "Watson"-like. I thought it was great that he was the side kick. His facial expressions (which either made me giggle like a school girl or LOL), his little doses of humor, and his epic moments of badass-ness (like the zero gravity scene) throughout the movie was enough for me. He served his purpose and served it well IMO, I think he added a ton to the movie, because he was just the offset to Leo's character. Too much Leo, for me, would've made me be like -_- lol I'm glad Joseph's adorableness was a small break from that and after all, you want the faithful sidekick to survive in the end, especially if he's as badass as Author

Ellen Page....I was also presently surprised by her appearance. I thought she was AMAZING. That's all I have to say about that. I can see how she would be irritating, but since me, as an audience, wanted to know about Cobb's backstory more than anything, I was glad she was used as a tool to break through those mysterious barriers. So I was with her in the midst of her prodding

Tom Hardy was good! I liked him

Ken Watanabe...meh Tom Berenger, meh Michael Caine, I was pleasantly surprised by him too. Heh, he played his little part and did it well I think. Nothing too note-worthy though.

And then there was Cillian Murphy. Admittedly I wasn't a fan girl of Cillian. I really only saw him in 28 Days Later and he wasn't really looking sharp then, you know, with the zombies and all lol But TIchy pampered me up with the Henry Jekyll portrayal. And then I saw Fischer's character and I was completely captivated. He looks very interesting on camera lol Interesting in a good way. He's just has a presence different from everyone else and it was great. And his voice was extra sexy THAT was a character I felt sorry for and I was definitely rooting for him.

So yep that's my little review. I loved it, want to see it again. Everyone in it looked good 4 stars

[cuervo]

I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS PEOPLE.

1. During the scene when they were on the plane, were they initially going to Los Angeles? Because Mr.Cobb wakes up, everyone wakes up, and the pilot announces that they're landing in Los Angeles, which is where Mr.Cobb lives...I couldn't remember if that plane was initially going there or not. I know that time in the real world and time in the dream world are skewed, and that the job they were doing would only amount to about ten hours in the real world, and that would cover the flight from Japan back to the US. Right?

2. Building on when they woke up, Mr.Cobb and Ken Watanabe's character seemed a bit dazed and confused. Mr.Fischer looked neutral, as if he had just woken up and that was that. Arthur smiles knowingly at Mr.Cobb, Ariadne (Ellen Page) looks at Mr.Cobb too, and I assumed they remembered everything because Ariadne built the dream and Arthur....knew about it? I'm not sure there. But Mr.Cobb definitely appeared like he didn't remember anything and I assumed this was because he too came back from limbo. Obviously Mr.Fischer doesn't remember anything, but I'm assuming that the idea is still planted in his mind and that he'll probably act on it. So MY QUESTION IS...did Mr.Cobb remember anything at all? Does he even remember Arthur, Ariadne, Mr.Fischer and Saito?

3. Where the hell did Eames (Tom Hardy) go? He wasn't in the ending scene in the terminal or on the plane when everyone woke up...or at least, I didn't notice him...

4. WHY suddenly could Mr.Cobb go home? He told Ariadne that he couldn't go home because everyone though he killed Mal (Marion Cotillard) and because doctors proved her sane three times and he'd have no away around it trying to explain to everyone that she killed herself (or something like that). So...he went downt to limbo and admited outloud to himself and to Mal and even to Ariadne all at once that he felt guilt for planting the seed of the idea in Mal's head. He realized that what they were in was not real, that he had already grown old with her and that they had their time together. He told her he had to go back "upstairs" to where the kids really were. So...was this all he had to do to go home? I mean realistically, what would stop him from coming home anyway? No one could pin proof on him that he killed his wife, because there is no proof. There'd be no finger prints on her, no poison in her body, no signs of foul play upon body examination. Was it just this thing in his head that was keeping him from coming home? This unsolved buisness?

5. About that...WHEN did they grow old together? When they both died together, via train crashing into them, they were YOUNG...so this doesn't make sense to me, either.

Okay, I think I'm done. For now.

[hamlet]

1. yeah thats a tricky one. the whole last scene where they land is debatable and there are discussions all over the internet about theories relating to that. The one im leaning towards is that Cobb never woke up and that the last scene was totally a dream. It makes the most logical sense, for that fact...that he's back in LA, and the way the sequence was shot. And the fact that his 'totem' is very unreliable for the simple fact that its NOT HIS. It's his wife's.

2. Again, that speaks to my above theory lol

3. That sorta speaks to my above theory too, that he didn't really 'go home' lol He was trying to kick himself out of limbo and i think it was just a mental thing that he had to do, inside his head, to get rid of the pain that was haunting him. But theoretically it was the whole thing about Mal that kept him from going home, and as long as he did inception of Fischer, he would be able to pretty much buy his way home.

4. hehe i talked to you at length about that one on IM

[LUCY "KITTY" HARRIS]

M’kay. I think I have at least a vague answer for each question you posed, but Yols or anyone else can go ahead and correct me if I’m a bit off. Unfortunately, Inception is not as fresh on my mind as it was the days that I watched it and when I typed up that review, but I’ll give answering your questions a shot.


1. Robert Fischer Jr. (SMEXY Cillian Murphy) is heading down to Los Angeles where the burial for his father will be held. Considering that the team needs at least 10 hours to successfully perform inception, the 10-hour flight to Los Angeles is the perfect opportunity for them. So yes, you have that part correct.


2.The reason for Cobb and Saito’s disorientation after awakening from the sedation is because they were in limbo. Limbo is kind of an abyss of sorts, where people lose their grip on reality and time drags on for ages. To suddenly be thrust back into the real world, as Cobb and Saito were, was enough cause for disorientation. Fischer was not aware of any inception so naturally, he assumed it was just a dream. A rather startling and poignant one, but only a dream. To clarify, Ariadne is the Architect so yes, she did construct all three levels of the dream, but three other members of the team were responsible for the design. The first level of the dream, the streets and whatnot, was designed by Yusuf, the chemist. Hence why he knows exactly where to go and why he’s the “designated driver”. The second level of the dream, the hotel, was designed by Arthur. Again, that was why he knew the nooks and crannies of the hotel itself. The third level was designed by Eames, as revealed by Ariadne when she tells Cobb that Eames added a shortcut to the facility. So while the Architect builds the dreamscape, much like a real architect, the plans for said dreamscape are thought up by someone else. Except in the case of Nash, Cobb’s first architect, when he reveals that he was the one that solely created the dream in which there is a riot outside. As for your question regarding whether Cobb remembered his team at all, the answer is yes. I know it seems like he’s dazed and not quite certain of his bearings, but that is the aftereffect of limbo. To prove this, Saito, after awakening from limbo himself, remembers that he had an arrangement with Cobb and patches up his situation. If Saito remembers, so does Cobb.


3. As for where Eames was, I don't remember if he was shown on the plane when everyone awakens, but I’m pretty sure I saw him in the terminal. Again, my memory of the entire movie is not as clear as it was after initial viewing, but I think Eames was present in the terminal. I’m not positive of where exactly he was, maybe in line or something, but I think he was there. Sorry for the not-so definitive answer, there.


4. Ahh, this is where the movie starts to play tricks on you. Before I get into Christopher Nolan’s witchery, I’d like to explain the technical things first. If you recall, Mal intentionally made it look like Dom had killed her. She set this plan into motion by sending a letter to her lawyer, I think it was a lawyer or something of the sort, explaining that she feared for her life because of Dom. This is how she attempts to corner him. She also tosses the hotel room to make it appear as if there was a violent struggle before Dom purportedly killed her. So, the police do have an incredible amount of reason to believe that Dom killed Mal. The fact that he jumps on a plane and bails after the death of his wife doesn’t exactly paint him as innocent of the crime he was charged with. It’s that whole, why run unless you have something to run from, type of deal. In light of this fact, Cobb has been blacklisted, hence why he cannot return home. Makes enough sense, really. As for that whole unfinished business bit, I’ll save that for last since that is the tricky question.


5. Okay, the whole growing old aspect of the movie did confuse me a little at first, but I think I managed to figure it out. You see, in limbo, as mentioned before, the time frame is severely skewed. My math skills are a bit rusty, I’ll admit, but I’ve managed to figure out that 10 hours of sleep is equivalent to 50 years in limbo. It seems trippy to think that they were only asleep for 10 hours and yet they spent 50 years with each other in limbo. The actual appearance of their age in limbo isn’t overly stressed because of the fact that Cobb and Mal are still young in the real world. There is a part in the movie, though, where Cobb and Mal are seen holding hands and walking down the desolate streets looking very aged. I actually think that it was Nolan’s intention to depict them as young so that he could establish a distinction to the dream world and real life. In limbo, Cobb is trying to convince Mal that their world isn’t real. Due to her refusal to believe this, he performs inception on her. Once he has performed inception and she believes him, they are both shown in their young age as the train barrels towards them. What I make of it is that if you allow yourself to believe that limbo is your reality, your body ages along with your mind. Such is the case of Saito at first, before Cobb convinces him to come back. I apologize if I have just confused you even more. I can’t seem to properly word my thoughts today.


4. (REVISITED) Okay, adding onto the fourth question you posed and the tricky one. Now, there are several theories on what exactly was happening in the movie. You mentioned that it could have been unfinished business. I partly agree. The guilt that Cobb was racked with for inadvertently causing the death of his wife certainly does not let his mind rest, hence why the projection of Mal sabotages the plans of his team. There is one theory out there that sounds even more wild than the movie itself and that is that the actual inception was being performed on Cobb and not Fischer. It kind of makes sense in a way considering how adamant Ariadne was about delving into Cobb’s subconscious. It could almost seem as if she were trying to force him into acknowledging that Mal’s death was affecting him even more than he let on. By the time they reach limbo and Cobb has admitted to both parties what he had done and had come to terms with his own demons, that might be the actual idea planted in his mind.


The ending is the biggest slap in the face of all. I’m more inclined to think he was still dreaming than actually awake, but I want to hear your thoughts on all of this first. As a little afternote, the answers that I gave are just bare-bones. I answered your questions using the facts given to us by the movie itself, but Nolan could have an entirely different perspective.

[chase]

I saw Inception last night with one of my best friends (after a Moroccan dinner, black-and-gold ice cream, and craziness in a CVS, 'cause that's how we roll!). She went into it knowing almost nothing about the plot, and I went in with a general idea of what it was about and how I would react to it. We both left the theater feeling a bit dazed but overall impressed by the movie.

The acting was difficult for me to get into at first; I didn't really fall into the movie until the middle of the Mombasa trip. I'm not sure why that was. Maybe because I knew what to expect. But one I got into it, I was hooked.

The actors themselves? Leo did a pretty good job. I haven't seen Shutter Island (dammit) so I can't really compare the two. And he was pretty. I had never really heard of Joseph before, but I am now a fan. He really owned those zero-g action scenes, and, according to the Wikipedia article, it was a hell of a lot of work to get down. But the scenes came out beautifully, way better than the Matrix (which everyone keeps comparing it to), thanks to his work and that of the producers and directors.

Now, I'm a huge Ken Watanabe fan, and I thought he did a great job with his role as Saito- especially considering that the script had him spend half the movie dying of a bullet wound. But his character was the power player, and that's exactly how Ken played him. The part where he knocked out the guy with a car door was awesome, and the carpet comment was lulzy.

Tom Hardy was total win- iirc, he delivered what my friend and I both thought was the best line in the movie, the part about dreaming bigger guns. His character brought a lot of fun to the proceedings, and he played it all very well.

Ellen Page did well too. I liked her character, although she was hella nosy. Compared to Mal, Ariadne was a saint. I don't think there was one second where I did not want to slap Mal. I mean that as a compliment to Marion Cotillard, though. (One of the first things I noticed was that the song in the movie was an Edith Piaf song... and Marion Cotillard...get it??) Michael Caine really was there for the blink of an eye, but he stole the scene every time.

And Cillian. My word, Cillian. He was brilliant in the movie, and he's gorgeous to boot. He has a great voice, but it's his eyes that I love. They're so damn pretty and expressive, even when he's acting.

Overall, I was happy with the casting, because there was a hell of a lot of eye candy. I have a thing for men in suits, and most of the men were dressed in suits the whole time, so yeah, Jaime was licking her chops for most of the movie.

Now, the plot. I've heard/seen a lot of people say that they found the plot confusing, but I followed it perfectly well. The extraction/inception concept is explained pretty clearly around the middle of the movie. Like Yols sort of said, I would have liked to have seen an actual extraction at the beginning, rather than jumping straight into Saito's plot, but the movie was already 2 1/2 hours, so I kinda see why Nolan et al did things that way.

I thought the plot was original and definitely interesting. As far as the ending, I chose to ignore the top spinning, as it was clearly a gimmick. But, later, I read a review (Wikipedia again, I think) that pointed out that when Cobb returns home at the end, his children just happen to be wearing the exact same clothes as they had been throughout the movie, which is either a huge filming fail or an indication that the last part, at least, is also a dream. If the latter is the case, I think that's the theory I'd go with.

There's something else that bothers me as well: Cobb inadvertently drove Mal insane by telling her that her reality was a lie so that she would want to escape. Cobb uses the same strategy with Saito at the end to bring him back to reality. Does that mean Saito is gonna go bonkers like Mal? This makes me sad face.

About Randi's questions- Since I was, very admittedly, keeping an eye on Ken Watanabe the whole time, let me suggest this: If there's an apparent hole in the plot, assume that Saito took care of it. Seriously, though, they used him as a sort of Deus Ex Machina. The flight to Los Angeles at the end? Saito arranged it. Cobb's sudden ability to get past customs at the end? Saito arranged it (through the "one phone call" that he made after they all left the dreams). More specifically:

1. Yes, they were initially going to Los Angeles. Fischer's father had died, and he was going to Los Angeles for the burial. Normally, Fischer would have taken his private plane, but Saito arranged it so that the private plane was being repaired and Fischer had to take a commercial flight instead. Specifically, Saito managed to have the plane be a 747 so that the pilots would be on a totally separate floor and would not know what was going on. Additionally, Saito bought out the. entire. plane. so that no other passengers would witness it. And how did he manage all this? Deus Ex Machina.

2. Everyone "remembered" everything upon waking, though yeah, whether that part actually happened is debatable.

3. I definitely remember seeing Eames on the plane and in the terminal.

4. Cobb couldn't go home because Mal framed him for her suicide. Before her death, she even had three psychologists declare her mentally sane so that no one could say it had been a suicide. So Cobb packed up and fled the US before he could be arrested. The reason he could go home at the end was because, as he had promised, Saito made a phone call and had all of the charges dropped.

5. They grew old together while they were in limbo. I can't remember how long they were in limbo in real-time, but in dream-time, it amounted to fifty years. There was a slight filming discrepancy in that it showed them walking together in Limbo City as an old couple, but then showed them being hit by the train as their usual ages. But basically, they grew old together in limbo.

Anyway, those are my thoughts on the movie, and I'm starting to think it might be one of my favorites. I'll have to see it again before I know for sure.

[cuervo]

@yolanda: You mean we talked about number five.

@alex: Okay, yeah, I was along those lines I suppose but thanks for clearing that all up. Makes more sense.

@jaime: Thanks for your thoughts and for the amusing review haha

Now...I am inclined to believe as of now that the ending was REALITY. Why? Well...

1. Prior to the inception mission, when Cobb was still needing an architect, he visits his father, Michael Caine. He gives Michael Caine the gifts intended for his kids and asks him to drop them by the house for him. So MC knew about Cobb's plans and knew that it was his only way to "come home." I'm assuming MC went to Los Angeles, Cobb's home, and dropped the presents by the house and hung around for a while. Then he turned up at the air port.

2. The totem is spinning at the end, yes, and we do not see it fall. This was probably intended as some mind-fuckery from Christopher Nolan, but I remember that the totem wobbles, which is a teaser that could mean it does fall. When you're dreaming, the totem spins endlessly. When you're in reality, it falls over.

3. How could the ending possibly be a dream? The mission started in the plane. You have to start SOMEWHERE people. And they had three dream levels, which was exactly how it was supposed to be, and then the addition of Cobb, Saito and Ariadane when they were in limbo. So in the end they wake up and they're back where they started, on that 12 hour flight to LA from Sydney. They were delayed one hour, and they do warn you about half an hour or so before landing that you're going to land.

So that's what I think

[hamlet]

But you guys remember that Cobb explains that the totem has to be uniquely YOURS and not used by anyone else? Well the top isn't his though. So whether the top stays up or wobbles or topples, its unreliable. It's been unreliable the whole movie.

There are some theories, for this reason, that the inception wasn't really Fischer, but for Cobb's own mind. And that the whole movie was a dream for him...hehe I have to watch it again to see if that really holds but its possible Its why we see it from Cobbs POV for the most part, especially the end.

[cuervo]

The entire movie couldn't all be a dream :/

[hamlet]

Why couldn't it? It'll be the ultimate movie mind f**k lol Hell, in this world you can have dreams within dreams within dreams. I don't see why the whole movie couldn't be a dream, within dreams within dreams within dreams haha

[cuervo]

Only because they had already stated it wasn't possible?

[hamlet]

to plant an idea in his own mind? When? ....or to create dreams within dreams within dreams? Because thats what they did throughout the whole movie lol

[LUCY "KITTY" HARRIS]

I think Randi is referring to the whole dream-within-a-dream aspect. It is true that there is sort of a set limit over how many dream levels you can create. The more you create, the more unstable the dream is, the higher chance it has of collapsing. Yusuf, the Chemist, alludes to that when Cobb, Eames, and Saito approach him with their inception proposition.

Hmm, now you all have me questioning my evaluation of the plot. I guess it’s a testament to the marvelous reviews you guys have typed up. Great job, guys!

I’m going to see Inception again on Friday, so maybe the third time will be the charm as far as unraveling this whole mess goes.

Also, YAY for not writing up a friggin’ essay on my part! ‘Bout time. -.-

[cuervo]

Yeah, that's what I was referring to. Have fun Alex. Hopefully I can again go this weekend.